HOST

Matt Poepsel, PhD

Vice President & Godfather of Talent Optimization

GUEST

Kevin Rice

Podcast Host, 2X Exited Founder

Most high-achieving leaders believe that working harder is the path to a fulfilling life. But for Kevin Rice, co-founder of Hathaway and host of the CEOs and ABCs podcast, the relentless pursuit of career success nearly cost him the moments that mattered most: at home, with his kids.

In this episode, Matt Poepsel sits down with Kevin to explore the deeply personal journey behind scaling a company to a nine-figure exit while becoming a solo parent to two young children overnight. Kevin opens up about slipping into “robot mode”, an emotional shutdown that made him highly productive but completely numb, and the wake-up call that came when selling his company felt like just another Tuesday. Together, they unpack why ambition without presence is a losing game, and how the business frameworks we use at work can make us better parents and partners at home.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • Robot Mode: How high achievers emotionally disconnect to survive pressure — and what it silently costs them at home
  • Assigned vs. Authentic Leadership: Why the leadership skills that work in the boardroom translate directly to raising kids
  • The SPARK Flywheel: A practical framework for building deep connection with your family, inspired by business growth strategy
  • The Regulated & Connected Matrix: How to diagnose difficult parenting moments the same way you’d diagnose an underperforming employee
  • Shifting Your Intention: How a subtle change in why you show up to work can unlock purpose without quitting your job

Highlights:
(0:00) Meet Kevin Rice

(1:33) Tripling a company’s headcount during a pandemic — and not feeling a thing

(3:22) Becoming a solo parent to a newborn and a toddler overnight

(4:16) What “robot mode” really costs high achievers

(5:02) Why the nine-figure exit felt like just another day

(9:54) The inner child work that changed everything

(16:04) Translating corporate frameworks into a parenting playbook

(23:14) Redefining success after the peak

(25:08) How to find purpose without blowing up your career

Resources:
Listen to CEOs and ABCs: ceosandabcs.com
Follow Kevin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kevinrice
Follow Matt on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mattpoepsel
Subscribe to The Predictive Index on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThePredictiveIndex

Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: shareyourgenius.com